The ordinary folk of the Wiltshire town who have behaved in such an extraordinary way and with such dignity over these last few grisly years have a problem on their hands.It would be quite out of character for them to herd the idiotic islamics, assorted peaceniks and their fellow travellers into the Tesco carpark and beat them up, as they deserve. And I am sure the good Wootton Bassett residents will ensure this does not happen. Quiet words with the headstrong young may be needed, though.
Equally, it doesn't seem right for ANY quiet country town to be invaded by a crowd of disaffected urban beards and troublemakers, despoiling the thoroughfare and chanting inflammatory and hoonish utterances, as they so love to do. Particularly a country town which has proved so splendidly that we don't need to go all aftermath-of-Princess-Diana when we wish to register our grief and respect.
So what's the answer?
Is it at all possible that all media will choose to ignore this, to let it go unrecorded? Not even worth posing the question, of course.
Might plod be encouraged to give the demonstrators an upfront bill (always unfeasibly large) for policing the event? At least so the cost of the awayday from Crawley and Oldham and Leicester will be more than just the coach trip and a Wagonwheel.
The best display of sang froid and Britishness (that's OUR type of Britishness, Mr Choudary, not yours) would be to let the buggers exercise their right to peaceful assembly. But somehow that would grate; after all, our excessive tolerance has certainly cost lives and has disfigured the 'culture' of Britain for evermore. Would subsequent repatriations at Wootton Bassett somehow be different, and not in a better way?
Something must be done. Or nothing. But what?
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Let them assemble and everyone ignore them - townspeople, shopkeepers and residents go about their daily business as if they don't exist. Or better yet, everyone that lives in Wooten Bassett leaves for the day! If the media make a fuss over them, so be it. No reaction, no acknowledgement.
In Texas we would definitely beat them up.
Happy New Year.
I was going to say what Anon said. The locals should stay indoors and say nothing. That way if any trouble kicks off it can in no way be blamed on anti-Islamic people.
This issue highlights the single biggest problem of "multiculturalism": that a significant number of people just do not understand the culture of the country they are living in. If they did they would understand that we are not in Afghanistan because of its Muslimness or because of our Christianness.
Can't they be arrested for insulting public decency or some such?
It was moderate muslims who put a stop to his Oct 31st Sharia demo outside parliament. More of that please.
I'm afraid I may be letting the side down, my Britishness requires me to wish harm upon those who would embark upon such an endeavour.Without relying upon the football thug EDL I would prefer the mighty mo's warriors recieved a good kicking, a process that shamefuly has served me well in life (both giving and upon occasion recieving).
No decent Muslim would do this.
So let the indecent Muslims go ahead. And let's not be ashamed of the consequences. Sometimes a backlash is appropriate.
This would also be a good an timely test of the relationship between the police and the majority of the British public.
How about inviting all their 'elected' MPs and local councillors to join them?
Publish a list of the invitees, then publish the feeble excuses for non-appearance afterwards...
Most 'politicians' are hated by the public anyway, and real anger at their cowardice can be displayed without a shot being fired!
You can't have one rule for one and another rule for others - complaining when freedoms don't suit is no good. The answer was to not let them in in the first place. Or at least not in such numbers as to cause these probs. Bit late now. England as we remember it is just that - a memory.
I like Anons suggestion but I fear that they might count that a win. Rather than stay indoors I think residents might spontaneously all decide to water their lawns/cars/spillage on the car parks. If they accidentally sprayed a protest with water then they can't be criticised. Especially if they all washed their cars for charity or as a protest against fluride in the water or something. I mean, there is a lot of salt on the road at the moment anyway. If one group can protest then why can't the other?
No one likes a drenching, especially in January.
Texan anon - happy new year. I think I know you. And blue agrees with you, which is a feather in any bugger's cap.
Thud, you can take the boy out of Liverpool, etc.
I know the answer to the test about the relationship between plod and mein herr on the strasse, kev.
Anon from china, the gist seems to be 520 of you lining up for sex with the laird of this blog. Good show.
Scrobs, I fear you suggest too much coverage.
Pip, an ice shower for an utter shower - my avatar would approve.
I think the Military should suround Wootton Basset with a platoon of The Royal Artillery and maybe throw a few tanks in too...
That should keep the buggers out!
I think a possible solution is at hand.
The good people of the village visit the wool shop and knit themselves some spectacularly bad beards.
Monty Python efforts, multi coloured ones, ankle length ones mutton chops, French forks etc.
Then, avail themselves of the local ironmonger and hardware store and purchase placard making equipment.
On the big day, the villagers join the procession, declaring their belief in Mr Choudary's vision of Islam and march along, waving their placards and banging drums and gongs and declaring death to America - death to Finland - death to Mexico. Then onto religions - death to Buddhists, death to Scientologists, death to Hare Krishnas and Seventh-day Adventists. Start a chant of enslave all women, massacre Jews, castrate gays, behead unbelievers and any other parts of the protesters beliefs that feel deserve to be aired.
The entire village must tag along proclaiming Mr Choudary a true prophet and agreeing loudly and vehemently with every utterance he makes. The vicar needs a similar megaphone to the nutters and echoes loudly every sentiment. Going even further if possible. 'I agree! Death to the western military industrial complex and to anyone who washes their robes in any biological western influenced detergent!"
All the while the villagers must not so secretly swig beers under their beards and calling out villagey greetings to one another for the cameras and talk to the media in a carnival atmosphere.
"Oi think that mr Choudry is a great prawfet of ar time and speaks for the people of Britain. He is in no way a total moonba' Hoon, despite arl appearances. Oi converted just this mornin' having read his waab page. Its compellin'. I said to ol' Fred , 'av a look at this Fred. 'An e converted on tha' spot. Roight - 'scuse me BBC. Got to go 'an burn up some gays like the almighty fool 'ere says. Stick abowt tho'.We've got the flogging and hand chawpping floats coming soon "
Let them march/demonstrate. This is a free country(just).
The radical Islamist is not our problem. Until and unless so called moderate Muslims deal with the problem, it will be the elephant in our room. Damaging to us, yes but not as damaging to Islam itself. Eventually the Muslims who sit on the sidelines will have to make a choice.
They should be put on the spot.
Your blog has upped several gears! What a great read. It seems that the UK Islamic fundamentalists are doing to our boys what the ludicrous Westboro Baptist Church is doing to those poor families of dead soldiers in the US.
I think they should let the Islamicists march to Wootton Bassett, but accidentally change the road signs so that they end up in a place not dissimilar to Royston Vasey... a local village, for local people.
They will never be seen again, outside of a halal meat pie.
The Mermaid is back! Prodigal piscean daughter or what?
And she starts off with a great one-liner:
"They will never be seen again, outside of a halal meat pie."
Welcome back, merms. I suppose I had better head over to Moorgate and see if your output is more frequent nowadays.
The simple expedient of making sure that the "usual suspects" behind the trouble never picked up another penny of benefit might work wonders. You don't have much time to make trouble when you are scrabbling around trying to make a living.
There is no right of assembly in the UK (I think that means more than 3 people, though I may be wrong.)
Any march or demonstration can be stopped by the local Chief Constable if he or she believes that it could create a danger to the public.
Even a march by the local Scout Troop can be banned for this reason.
I think that the last thing the good people of Wootton Bassett want is a stand off between these nutters and the BNP.
And our brave boys and girls who have come home via Wootton Bassett deserve better as well.
Career plod hasn't the balls to stand up to Moslems.
The Quango plan best appeals to the Tuscan instinct for fun.
Round of applause for BQ !
The modern age is made deeply perplexing in some ways by multiculturalism. Imagine if you will being in London in 1915; imagine witnessing a parade by ethnic Germans criticising the British army for fighting the Kaiser; imagine protests at the killing of German soldiers and civilians. An odd image you’ll agree. And yet we are in that position now it seems: Muslim activists are proposing to undertake a protest march in Wootton Bassett (who’s significance is that it is near RAF Lyneham in Wiltshire where the bodies of the fallen are returned by the RAF). The shocking thing is that not only will they be criticising the war, but also criticising the lauding of British soldiers who fell during the fighting.
Many of us would agree with the former protest. The Iraq & Afghan wars are perceived by many as pointless, or even dangerously destructive; wars whose only purpose is to allow self-deluding British politicians with large egos to play with big boys and kid themselves they matter a damn.
Where, for many, they cross the line is to besmirch the memories of the fallen. I suspects I am not alone in drawing a firm distinction between the acts of politicians in starting a war and the poor infantry in prosecuting it. To be simplistic, the politicians are slimy manipulative scum and our squaddies are unquestioned types who deserve our unqualified support in doing the unpleasant bit of wars. Obviously it’s more complex than that: many politicians are decent and principled; and war-crimes against civilians are committed by a small number British troops who can’t merely be dismissed glibly as “a few bad apples”.
Nonetheless, one gives, nigh-on, unqualified support to the troops. Which made the reaction to the premise of the march one of outraged indignation and deep offence. Attack the war yes; attack our politicians? here — have a rock to throw; but attack the soldiers? Perhaps not.
A chum, ex-army officer & prospective lawyer, tells that ex-soldiers on Facebook are sufficiently unimpressed that they have suggested driving down to the protest march to make their feelings known. Calmer heads are suggesting that common sense on all sides is the order of the day. Perhaps the police should ban the march on public order grounds, or the marcher should be persuaded to be less provocative and confine their invective to the politicians.
And yet.
What of free speech? Real free speech. The speech we hate, rather than the speech we consider acceptable. As my old chum said t'other day at the four ale bar: “What did these guys die for if not free speech?” One of the issues that causes radicalisation of young Muslims is the unequal treatment they perceive themselves to receive in this ‘multicultural’ society: this may be real or imagined. What they do see is dozens of muslim civilians slaughtered by Blackwater murderers, who are then acquitted. They see one hundred thousands Muslims killed with nothing but crocodile tears shed by the politicians and modern-day ‘Crusaders’, as they put it, of the British army. They may be entirely wrong about this or they may be entirely right. But what they should be able to do is to protest and to make these claims.
Of course doing it in a military town is provocative and some say “Use a little common sense”. But what is ‘common sense’? And why should one not be ‘provocative’? Should the protest be arranged to happen in the middle of nowhere so no-one will see? What’d be the point of that? And if one is making the point they wish to make, why not make it directly to exactly the people who are doing what causes one offence? Aren’t they the best people to receive the protest?
As a nation we’ve seen this repeatedly in the Marching Season in Northern Ireland, for example, and it is frequently a bloody expensive and tiresome business. It’s also the price of democracy. All that aside one imagines that the local police will find a compelling reason to block the parade.
T P Fuller:
The 'price of democracy' my fucking arse!
'It's' the penalty we must pay for a policy of unrestricted immigration coupled with an autocratically imposed, socially destructive regime of 'multiculturalism'.
Our democracy was not won and preserved by respecting those who detest all we hold dear and live only to destroy us. Those murdering scum have no right to express themselves here.
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